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Using Board Games to Support Hybrid Learning and Homeschooling feat. Danielle Dabbs – 137

Episode Overview

We’re back with Season 12! In this week’s episode of Board Gaming with Education, Dustin is joined by Danielle Dabbs for Board Gaming with Education’s first-ever VideoCast episode. Whether you’re a parent looking for more ways to spend time as a family, use games to support learning, or are a hardcore hobby gamer and looking for more games to play with kids this episode is for you! Danielle shares some awesome games to use at home to support hybrid learning and homeschooling. She also shares some stories, insights, and tips on how she supported her children at home this past year with board games. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel to get more content from Board Gaming with Education!

  • Episode Topics (timestamps are for podcast episode | video time stamps are available on YouTube)
    • Board Gaming with Education Introduction: Board Games for Learning at BGE – 00:00
    • Who is Danielle Dabbs? – 3:09
    • Framing the Discussion – 5:19
    • Growing into Board Games – 7:19
    • Using Board Games to Teach Content – 18:13
    • Dustin challenges Danielle to a Game of 5-Second Rule – 35:23

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Who is Danielle Dabbs? – 3:09

Boardgamebabies is an Instagram account and blog run by Danielle Dabbs to help people find great games for their kids or students (and a few for the parents too)! Our mission is to encourage learning and fun through modern tabletop games, and to get more games into the hands of kids in need! When not writing board game reviews, Danielle writes grants to fund school supplies and educational resources for kids at low-income schools! She also plays a lot of games with her husband and 4 kids (ages 8 and under)! 

Framing the Discussion – 5:19

Dustin and Danielle chat about their experience with the hobby of board games and discuss their journey from hobby gamer to using games for learning. Danielle shares a bit about her family and when she first started using games at home.

Growing into Board Games – 7:19

Danielle shares a story about her daughter and using games to help build confidence for her other school work. Then, Dustin and Danielle move into a discussion about different games that can be used as stepping stones to more advanced games, and what to pay attention to as a parent.

Using Board Games to Teach Content – 18:13

Danielle runs her Instagram @boardgamebabies channel to share with other parents awesome games that can be used at home for learning. She shares different games based on different content areas and ages:

Pre-School to 2nd Grade (and up) Games for Math

Reading Pre-K to 2nd Grade (and up) Games for Reading

Geography Pre-K to 2nd Grade (and up) Games

Science Pre-K to 2nd Grade (and up) Games

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Dustin challenges Danielle to a Game of 5-Second Rule – 35:23

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Using Board Games to Support Hybrid Learning and Homeschooling feat. Danielle Dabbs – 137

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Dustin Staats 0:00
What’s up EduGamers! Today, is actually our first video cast episode. So if you’re listening to this on your regular podcasting platform join us on YouTube. I mean, technically, you don’t really have to, you can definitely listen to the show here on your normal podcasting platform. But we also have it up on YouTube. It’s a more visual medium for the show as well. We’re also releasing videos beyond our normal video cast that comes out on Mondays we’re doing some shorts, and some other cool stuff like our weekly live streams every Wednesday night at 530. Pacific Standard Time. So join us for those as an audience, you can engage in some of the games we play or if you’re interested in being a guest, you can join us on our show as well. Alright, in for today’s episode, we’re joined by Danielle dabs, and she’s going to talk to us about hybrid learning and at home learning in some of the board games she used to supplement her children’s learning at home. So really excited to dive into this topic with her and learn a bit from her. And, as always, if you have any feedback, suggestions, comments or anything about this episode, you can always reach out to us podcast at Board Gaming with Education calm. Alright, let’s get into the topic.

Board Gaming with Education 1:20
Board Gaming with Education, a podcast for anyone curious about how games and education, we explore various topics like game based learning, gamification, and board games, and the impacts they have on learning. here’s your host, Dustin Staats.

Dustin Staats 1:39
Board Gaming with education.com is a community and online store focused on leveraging board games for learning. So check out our selection of curated board games for learning. We have games like the one behind me wingspan, another one called design eye, which teaches you elements of graphic design. We have also our board game design kits, Unforgiven, a game about the Lincoln assassination trial, a lot of great games, check it out, we also develop resources for some of these games, too. These are additional resources that you can use to pull learning objectives from these games to use in your classrooms or at home. Again, Board Gaming with Education calm. Now, let’s get into that chat with Danielle.

So today, I’m joined by Danielle dabs. I’m super excited to have you here. I was just telling her, I don’t have kids. So I know a lot of our listeners, a lot of people in our community do have kids. And we always chat about like games and board gaming, but it’s always good to have someone on the parent using games at home with their kids. So Danielle has an Instagram account. And that’s kind of how we connected. I saw her post. She was on another podcast, homeschool together, right?

Danielle 2:55
Yeah,

Dustin Staats 2:56
I would suggest checking out that episode, especially if you are going to dive into games for at home learning. There’s a lot of awesome stuff there. But I’m excited to chat with you. Daniel, would you mind introducing yourself a little bit?

Danielle 3:09
Sure. First of all, thanks so much for having me. I’m excited to do this. And so my husband and I have been playing modern board games for probably about two decades. They’ve always been really important to us and our relationships, our social life, and then now how we interact and teach our kids. So I’m a mother of four kids. So I have none, I have a lot to do you want to borrow someone you’re welcome to view anytime you want. Their ages 18 months to eight years old. So that’s a full time plus job. But I also have a master’s in social work almost 5015 years working in low income schools, both running after school programs, and then now actually grant right or school supplies for kids in those schools. But because of my background, education, to me has always been kind about finding those interesting and unique ways to teach kids so the teachers were doing their thing during the day. But for some kids, they didn’t connect with that that we would be like drumline or theater stepping to engage them in education in a different way. So when it came time, oh kid, I was always trying to teach them like through more experiences and hands on learning. And that has included a lot of games. And even though my husband and I were really involved in hobby board gaming for a while we were struggling to find things that we enjoyed playing with our kids. So we had those terrible traditional games like Candyland ladders, which everyone’s familiar with, or we were trying to force them into like, entry level hobby games were like, Oh, these are easy. They can play those but they’re just either too long or too complicated. So we did a lot of research and found there was like an entire world of fun family games and games for kids. So we set our Instagram account for that just to kind of share what we’ve learned with others. And it’s been really fun to connect with other people who are using games to learn and are this crazy season to where so many people are at home a lot more than it used to be. Right, right.

Dustin Staats 5:19
Yeah, that’s awesome. And I have a, I have a question I’m going to throw out to you. I didn’t prepare you for this. So. Okay, you mentioned Candyland. And oh, man, like chutes and ladders. You have like one game, you would say, hey, before we get into like actually chatting about why games are important, but what would it be one game that you would recommend to someone to check out? It’s the only know those two games.

Danielle 5:41
So I would say like a substitute for Candyland is who our hood, which is the exact like same mechanics of like drawing a color card and moving forward to the next color. But it’s cooperative. And it has an end in sight like Candyland. I’m either stacking the deck or hiding cards so that I don’t end up going back to like the cupcake or something. I think that’s like a great substitute for like, oh, but I really want to play like a Candyland type game. And my kid I would use Punahou I peaceable Kingdom instead because it is the same educational components, but way more fun. Anyway,

Dustin Staats 6:17
yeah. Awesome. I haven’t played that one. I don’t, I don’t know if I’ve heard of that, either. It’s Hoot owl hoot. Like,

Danielle 6:26
a very fruitful game. Okay, cool. But it actually like does kind of tailor up to because you can help kids like choose, you know, which color they want to pick to move based on which ones further. So there is like some number of nurses. So even though it’s like really, really basic. For my child, who knows the colors, I’ve moved through up to doing that kind of interaction with it, which.

Dustin Staats 6:50
Right, right, and that Corporation aspect is kind of just, there’s those skills of communicating just that a really basic level, even in a game like that for younger kids. Awesome. So you mentioned you were in the board game hobby. How did you? Eventually I think we will have kids and we are huge in the board game hobby. How did you kind of integrate Teaching and Learning with the board game hobby with your kids.

Danielle 7:19
So we had initially kind of started out today choosing, like playing games with our kids more to just teach the most basic skills like cooperation and working together. But we’ve realized that there’s so much they can learn through games that is more educational. So we win the pandemic, we’re in like a totally different situation than we were a year ago. So we now have kids who are learning at home for a significant chunk over time. And I can kind of talk about what our situation looks like. But we have a child who’s in second grade, who is doing hybrid schooling. And so that means she goes to school two to three days a week. And then the other day, she doesn’t even get online. With a teacher. She’s just doing like two hours of homework. Okay, so when she started doing that, in spring, we realized that some of the stuff she was doing with school was just very frustrating for her the computer program was like really difficult as a first grader to figure out how to work click through and worksheets are super boring for her. So one of the things we started playing with constantly was sleeping queens are familiar with that game.

Dustin Staats 8:38
Yeah, would you mind just quickly sharing an overview?

Danielle 8:43
Yes, I had a terrain. One of my one of my favorite because it’s like one of the ones that really got us into thinking differently about using games with our kids and not just like to teach them taking turns and winning or losing. But you You’re, you’re have Queens in the center, and you’re trying to wake the Queens up using kings and queens up, and there’s like power cards let you put the Queen back to sleep or steal a queen or something like that. But one of the ways you can change your card is by making addition equation. And so you have number cards, I think three through know one through nine, or one through 10. And so you can change it in many numbers as you can add to make an equation to total one of your other cards. So if you like have a one and a nine, you can turn it in those with your 10 card and get three new cards to kind of pick up power cards to get your queen. So we started doing that instead of her online math program that she had to do because she was just tortured by that like it was like you had a quick as fast as you could and she was panicking. Got it. So she had to do a lot more math. We played around around After a round of clicking scenes and so from that it was just like a light bulb going off. Like, why are we not finding games and a click. So many games, especially addition, like you can’t, you know, throw a rock without hitting a game that uses addition, like even the games that hadn’t played, we’re doing all the addition at the end for scoring. So unless you’re cheating and using an app, to let the kids know, we knew that, like lots of games had some of those components and that we started, like trying to find more games that were more educational, but still fun and trying to like, balance that out for them. So now it’s just like such a part of our family culture, like the kids just constantly picking up off the shelf. I use it to teach my other child preschool. And that’s kind of how we transitioned into like, we’re not, you know, we’re playing games constantly.

Dustin Staats 10:57
So, um, I guess so you have a, I guess, son, daughter and preschool, and then you have older kids. And so I’m assuming you’re using different games with those kids. But then maybe sometimes you’re playing games together? How do you kind of how do you manage that?

Danielle 11:19
So, um, when my older two or so Okay, so we have a second grader who’s in high school. And then our kindergartner is in Parkland kindergarten, which looks exactly like hybrid school. It’s the same people today, two full days a week. And that would be his normal schedule, like without the pandemic, but on the bases home, he has no assigned work. So he is just rainbird can do whatever he wants. But to me, I’m going to keep them busy. And I’m always about like, we’re going to learn, I mean, like, I don’t want to hit him over the head, like, I do not pull worksheets out for my kids ever. But I’m always trying to teach him like with baking or, you know, when we used to go out, we go to the zoo and go to the Science Center and things like that, we just can’t do that anymore. So. So he, I use being blocked for him for that. And then my preschooler, we really tried to play like preschool games on the days when they’re at school, and then have a two month old who I’m basically just like, please don’t die, like just keep yourself occupied. dumping out marker bins and stuff like, or I put him down for a nap, and then we’ll play. So I fill in sometimes I’m just like, picking a kid who’s specifically playing for a specific reason, like, particularly with my preschooler, I’m pulling I have like, three or four shelves of games that are just her like preschool schoolwork, games. And so I don’t use the curriculum for her, I just use books and games, pretty much. And so she and I will play a lot of those like games are kind of like, a little too young. For my older kids now, like they’ll play and sit like, sit and play like an easier peaceable Kingdom game, but they’re not excited about it, they’ll just do it like more. So she gets kind of those games more when it’s her preschool time. And that’s usually when the older kids are gone. The older kids, we play a lot like when the other two are at nap or quiet time. So they have like a specific set of games that are too old for my four year old. So I have a eight year old six year old four year old 18 month old, and my six year old and eight year old are pretty much at the same level like our six year old. I don’t know if he has always been this way or just because of games. He’s caught up like he, yeah, we had no idea what his kid was. And when we started playing in Queens, he picked it up instantly. Like I would have never thought in preschool that he was going to do additional equations up because he was exposed to it with the game and wanted to play so hard. He played or placed that much he would have, you know, play open handed we’d help him but within a couple rounds, he was picking it up because he just wanted to keep up with her. So he’s been like selling like he’s at least a grade level head on everything now because of playing with her. And playing games. They’re more tailored hearts. And then one of my goals this year has kind of been like to find games that they all can play together because that is like the sweet spot. And sometimes that’s our four year old being the helper like we played dream home the other night, and she was the one who like picked up a card and put it in my house. But she wasn’t playing on our own, but she was playing on my team. And then sometimes she’s a dice roll. And then sometimes she legitimately can’t play like she also was like pushing herself to do things that are older than her, like normal capabilities, I think because she wants to keep up and be doing what they’re doing.

Dustin Staats 14:46
Right, right. And I’m trying to think of some games that are I mean, maybe maybe like a year or two down the road where you have the oldest being the one that’s kind of I’m thinking Like mysterium if you’ve played that or

Unknown Speaker 15:04
So okay, yeah, so like,

Dustin Staats 15:06
there’s like the one person that’s kind of a, quote unquote Game Master. But I mean, the other players have a lot of unique choices. But I’m trying to think of if there’s any game I can think of one off the top of my head, but there’s that one player. That’s kind of the one that’s the captain’s the board game, I suppose, where everyone else has smaller kind of roles, and they’re working together. Yeah, so folders.

Danielle 15:28
So I think our older kids, our eight year old, though, I think she’s gonna be playing like, a lot of more of these modern board games that we played sooner because a lot of the games that we play with her also are teaching them mechanics. So like, we’re also like, looking at like, Okay, this is like a family strategy game. But this teaches you all the mechanics, like when you’re playing forbidden Island, you’re learning all the mechanics for pandemic, right? So they’re familiar with, you know, a tile laying, like Pollyanna laying in hava tiny Park, and then they can play Baron Park, from that. So like, I think that the jump to some of those like old AR games, and even some they’re playing some that I thought were going to be just for my husband and I and now playing we’re like, Okay, give it a try. Yeah, one of the games I was gonna share, actually, do you play quacks of quedlinburg? ad? Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 16:21
I really liked

Danielle 16:24
him. Yeah. He bought that for us. Yeah, okay. Yeah, we bought that for us to play. And they saw it and thought it was a Harry Potter game and wanted to play. And so they’ve been like, amazed, like, they’re actually better at it than I am. Because they’re like more, they’re less afraid to push their luck. Yeah, we’re, I’m like always, like, really, I’m really like, not gonna, I’m not gonna go, I’m gonna hold and they’re like, Oh, just give it a try. So they end up doing better. But that one has like, amazing amounts of addition and subtraction, because they’re constantly adding their cherry bombs, to see if they’re going to, you know, bust their pot explode, or potion. And then when they have to buy ingredients, they have to like, figure out how much how many points they have, and how much is spent and how much they have left. So like, they’re playing games that I didn’t game that we like, wouldn’t think they wouldn’t be playing right now. They’re starting to play those because of like, starting them as a family game level, if that makes sense.

Dustin Staats 17:21
Right? Yeah, I mean, that. I mean, that’s another topic too, is like game mechanics or type of like, I guess Lexus, you have to learn some of those game mechanics before you can move on to new ones. Because classic Quinlan virg is pretty, I would say it’s like a medium weight game, I wouldn’t. I don’t know if I would introduce that to a friend of mine that’s never played to some modern board games.

Danielle 17:45
So that’s awesome. I think, I think if we had tried to, like, play this with my six year old, when he hadn’t played any game, he wouldn’t be able to play it. But because we’d like scale him up through a lot, right. And we like have to help him with the math still, like he can’t do the subtraction, you know, 24 minus, like, 12 or something like that. But it’s great for my second grader. I’m like, this is like the best math we’ve been doing like today. Yeah, that’s cool.

Dustin Staats 18:13
That’s awesome. So are there any games that you use that you look at content specifically, and whether it’s tying it into things they’re doing in school, or just something that you kind of decide to do on your own and kind of keeps content through.

Danielle 18:29
So I actually have, like ever Instagram, but then I did, like, start a blog, where they just like, keep track of it for people who aren’t on Instagram. And so I do, like, try to group our games on there by content. So like, when you go to like a K through third grade, it should have like all the math games together, and then all the reading games and geography and we’re not very good at having science, we need to get more science in or you have a lot of things I need to do more of that. But so from math, obviously, like, that’s a huge area of like that. There’s so many games, like almost every game is easy to incorporate math in it. But we have a lot of games that I use, like for specific mapping. So a couple of them I do have like a drum if you want to see all my games for. for preschool, I picked two games that are kind of like more basic about teaching, just number of rolling the dice and number recognition, counting the one one correspondence like being able to count the number of spaces that you’re moving. So when we do with my preschoolers letter locked by hava and this one’s really just like one that’s like counting up to three. So it’s a really basic one to start with. And then there’s counter chickens, which is the same type is a spinner but you’re also just doing one to one correspondence. This one can go up to like 10 or so. So those are two like preschool math games that I use a lot to connect, like, I want her to not just identify numbers, but be able to do that one to one course, where she’s counting the spaces that she did, which is what a lot of younger kid board games are doing. But these are a little more interactive and a little more, a little more fun. Like they’re not super fun, but they’re a little more. And then for the older kids live in Queens, I already talked about which I just love that one, we do some game donations, and that one I like if two schools and everyone because I just think it’s super easy to learn and fun to play. And it has the addition component. But then we’ve been turning it in subtraction lately, too. So we’ll just say different fraction equations when you do it instead of addition. Another like content game format that I use a lot is movies in the candy shop. And this one is adding some up to 20. So you’re making like piles of candy that add up to 20. And then you’re stealing piles with your card. So like if somebody has a card, a pilot has 15 on top and you have a five card, you can steal their pile with your five cards. So our kids love it. Like it is so clearly educational. Like it’s not even hiding it at all, because it’s something funny, but it’s so interactive, and they like have so much fun, like putting the wrapper on it and locking the things locking the stack. So we play that one quite a bit. for math, but they don’t. Have you played?

Unknown Speaker 21:40
Yeah, yeah.

Danielle 21:42
Yeah, so this one too. I’m like, it’s super, you know, great game for adults and kids. But this one would have been great for doing this to number dies, adding and then this one we actually played virtually with grandparents too. So like, we gave them a set and we have a set and they can roll the dice and tell us what they have. And so that’s been great because they don’t always want to play with me either. Like sometimes it’s nice to like it up. Someone more fun to play with.

Dustin Staats 22:12
Yeah, those are those are good games for for like virtual rolling rights or flipping actual experiences. And

Danielle 22:20
then I think the game that’s been like our math MVP is, again called on moneybags. This is like as content based as a guest, it’s teaching coin named coin value, and then adding points. So I don’t know what it is. Because, again, it’s like one of those ones where you’re spinning and moving, and then you’re adding up, you’re just, it tells you like how much money you’re supposed to make with the coins. And then you spend a center to see like, if you can’t use dimes, you can’t use nickels. And you have to make that amount of money out of the coins. Our kids think it’s like the most fun game like basic, they don’t think of it as an educational game. They think it’s so fun. And I’m like, I don’t know if it’s because they like all the money if they feel like a real money. But they want to play all the time. And it is single handedly responsible for teaching them points and how to add them. Like again, my kindergartner now knows all of his point names all of their values and can easily add money and my second grader is just being introduced to that in school. So like, this game is like my MVP of like content teaching. So those are the math ones and I talked about a class a little bit which I really like for that right now. for reading, I mostly use a lot of reading stuff, it’s easy to find games for preschoolers for reading. And it’s more like learning to read like learning letter names and letter sounds so like a basic like ABC thing go for that and this is a peaceable Kingdom game to which like it’s just there’s just such like high quality that I like having a because I know like to if I lose a piece will send me pieces for free and they did that with all their things which is perfect when you have preschoolers who are Yeah. And then like this is a classic but sequence of letters like everybody so we use that one for learning letters and letter sounds. And then another again, these are probably in my like, I don’t know if these are my most fun games that we have are definitely more like educational content, Facebook, because I’m teaching her preschool. I kind of have to do that too. And then there’s, this is based on the show the ABC super wide show. So that ones are like preschool letter games, or reading games. But then I think like once kids are older, we have not found a good amount of like, helping struggling reader like Ask me like, Well, what do you use when they’re past that they know their letter, and they will know their letter sounds, but they can’t quite, they’re still not reading or they’re like a reluctant readers like they just refuse to read. And for those, I think the one thing I recommend usually is a game called kids creative 30. And this is like a, it’s a, it’s a small business. So they’re like a family company. But they are similar cards, it’s quite similar to Cards Against Humanity. But it’s very, very clean, like I took out like maybe two cards from the whole thing. And I’ve read a lot about the different versions of the game. And I don’t think they’re all quite that clean. But my kids practice reading those, because they have to read the cards like what they want. So they’re reading like silly string for like, Sunday’s are coloring on the wall. But like, they have to read the card to play. And I think that’s something that like, people don’t get their love, necessarily always think about, like, pick a game that has like, cards with a little bit of reading on it, like, we just got King of Tokyo. And those cards have like, you know, just a little bit of text about like, what the power you’re purchasing on the map. And that’s, that’s what our new reader is working on reading, though. So he’s like reading the game, because he wants to know what it can do. So we kind of just, instead of just reading it for him, we push him to be like, Well, can you figure out what it says, and I think that’s an area like that people, you know, want a reading game in particular. But when you get past learning to read, there’s not as much for like, practicing reading. But if you take those card games, where there’s, you know, deck builders or things where you’re having to read stuff on the cards, it helps them just reinforce that and they don’t like a lot of reluctant readers don’t push back on it, because, right, it’s something they want to do. And it’s fun to sit here and read a book or fill out a worksheet or something.

Dustin Staats 26:57
Yeah, it’s, um, I mean, it’s those, those fantasy worlds are very, you know, engaging. And I mentioned before we started talking, as I have a student that I tutor in Taiwan, and before I left Taiwan to come back to LA, I bought him some like gifts, and I got him he loves Pokemon, so I got him Pokemon, you know, Pokemon, like the encyclopedia book? So I’ll read that in English, because it’s

Danielle 27:22
Yeah. Yeah, there’s tons of like games that have stuff like that, that you just find what you’re interested in and, right, know, they’ll read that stuff, because they want to know what it’s right. I think sometimes, like kids are very intimidated by books, too. And like, just the large amount of content, a large amount of Texas on a page where if you’re handing them a card, we’re just like a sentence or two, it’s less intimidating to, and a lot of them have like repetitive words on them, because different cards will do similar things. So I think that that’s just a way we’ve started to, like incorporate practicing reading with gain. Right, right. And then I have a couple geography games, if you want to hear all these games,

Unknown Speaker 28:12
even for half an hour long.

Danielle 28:14
So this one I use for like younger kids scramble up space. So it’s based on a book, which they know and they read in elementary school, which is nice. And the reason I like this is because it does, it’s not like an entire map that comes with a map of the US but your match your you’re not playing on a map, or which is kind of different, but you’re looking at the states on cards. So you’re actually looking at each state’s individual shape, which I think is just helpful to kind of give it a recognize the state by shape. And then a lot of times we’re looking to see on their map, like comparing like, Okay, well, where is this on the map, because it doesn’t touch a river or does it like because you’d have to match it to the right, like clue card, or whatever it is. And then even my young like that the game that I can have our eight year old six year old, four year old play, because my four year old can do the cards worth like, which state matches a color and we just don’t race in this one, like if you’re racing game, but we modify it to not be writing. So she can like find one that starts with a certain letter because she’s doing letter identification. And then the other one I like for older kids. This one I like our second grader can play this. But I do think part of that is because she’s like play to get to ride and play trekking the national parks that we just got our world this year. And that this one has been really great for geography because it’s one of the only ones that has a world map with almost every single geography game that we play is based on a specific concept like any one, except for I guess we’re all in sales, which I never played, so I can’t. Yeah.

Dustin Staats 29:52
Because most, most map games are based on like a region, right? It’s not really world based.

Danielle 30:00
So I like that one because like, they can see the whole world. And then they’re like picking where they want to go. And we don’t have a ton of science games. So I still think that somebody else but we do have, we’ve been playing this a lot lately, which is an off market property kids. Mm hmm. And so that when we introduce like habitat, and then animals, but the cool thing about Darwin is, it’s got like the three dimensional planets, and you have to put the tiles on them. And then you’re reading your habitats like around the edges, like if this town up your habitat where, and you have to rotate it. And so it’s like a completely different way of thinking when they have to counter habits because they’re counting them in 3d and rotation. Thanks. Yeah. So those are all my like, I think that was a lot. Sorry. Said, like, for specific, like content connection? Yeah,

Dustin Staats 30:59
that’s awesome. I would say one science one, maybe that is definitely for your six, eight year old and four year old might need some help is ecosystem. Okay, essentially, it’s like a king Domino where you’re putting things in a grid, but then you’re trying to place different animals next to each other based on how they interact within an ecosystem in the real world. It’s not like super tied into like, real life ecosystem. But it’s like, if you put a bear next to a fish, you get points of view put.

Danielle 31:31
Oh, yeah,

Dustin Staats 31:33
like a fox away from the wolf. So I think you get points. I don’t know the exact, exact animals and stuff. But

Danielle 31:40
yeah, I’ve seen that one. But I haven’t played we just tried evolution beginnings, which is like, kind of predator prey interactions. Yeah, that one did not work super well, for us, just because you have to eat other people’s animals and like, destroy their stuff. And they were not super excited about like, someone killing their animals, everything. We’re just gonna hold off on this one. It’s like, No, your kids do and know what works for them. Like, kids can only play cooperative games because they can’t stand. scale them up to what they’re able to do and are interested in doing.

Dustin Staats 32:17
Cool. Um, so do you have anything else to share? Maybe before we head into our game?

Danielle 32:25
There are two, I, one of the things I just want to talk about, it wasn’t content based, like kind of that other learning that you learn from games?

Unknown Speaker 32:35
Yeah,

Danielle 32:35
we’re a couple of games. I think I think everybody knows, like, you know, cooperative games help you learn cooperation, working as a team problem solving and stuff. But I think those are great. But what I wanted to mention, too, I wanted to mention to our dinosaur Tea Party, you know, it’s guests who with cars. And so you’re, it’s a social deduction game, or like, not social sector. It’s just a deduction game where you’re trying to figure out like, who is who each person is. But the thing I love about this game, which I don’t think people think about important, a lot is like, because it’s this key party, you play with Philly accent. And so, like acting, which like, again, not something connect to board games, but I think there’s lots of games out there that can do more than you think they can do if you interact with them in a right way. Like any game that you play, can be educational, or, you know, to the kids can learn from it. Right? He sound like the way you talk about it, or the way the questions you ask when you’re playing. So I don’t know if there’s anything else.

Dustin Staats 33:49
They said in one one more just as the dinosaur Oh, okay.

Danielle 33:55
Yeah. I’m sure you played a version of codename.

Unknown Speaker 33:59
Yeah, maybe

Danielle 34:01
for some I cannot play real coding. I do not like just the letters. But um, this one is pictures. So it’s basically like coding and pictures, but with Disney movies. And this was another one that I like, picked up. And I was like, there’s no way. I mean, I know it’s busy, but I just didn’t think our kids can really play it. Just because it was maybe too abstract for them to figure out like our clothes and stuff. But they have been amazing at it. And the thing that surprised me about this game is the connections that they can make. And my eight year old can now like, you know, call her like, she can sit there and look at the cards and come up with the connections even even better than I can. So I just think it’s cool when there’s games that you’re like, I don’t know if they’ll be able to do this, or they’ll be able to think in this way when they’re that young. And I think that’s a really fun one to help them think differently than just like, you know, literally linearly,

Dustin Staats 34:56
right, right. Yeah, it’s, I don’t know I love codenames. And I like to Try to get as many like, I like to be the color and like to give like crazy, like five and try to do. I mean, I’m very good at it. I just enjoy

Danielle 35:12
finding the pictures because I’m like, clearly my data is significant and more creative than I.

Dustin Staats 35:23
Awesome. Cool. All right, well, we’re gonna move into our game I mentioned we’re gonna play five second rule.

This is the first time doing it was usually I’ve done on the podcast, we’ve done audio, so I can like really into things and kind of figure it out. But we’re gonna try to do it on the fly video here. Let’s share my screen.

If you’re not familiar with this, or if anyone’s not seen it, essentially, I’m going to give you a category and you have to name three things in that category within five seconds. I think I have word categories or five categories so we can see how many you can get out of four or five. The first one’s very easy level. I don’t know if I should say that because if you don’t get them

Danielle 36:23
under pressure, do you think I should get my eight year old shall be better?

Dustin Staats 36:31
Maybe animals?

Danielle 36:34
Okay, draft zebra.

Dustin Staats 36:36
Awesome. One point. famous singer.

Danielle 36:40
Mariah Carey, Britney Spears.

Dustin Staats 36:42
Two points, things you put on?

Danielle 36:45
Sausage, pepperoni. Cheese.

Dustin Staats 36:49
I think maybe I’ll give you that one. Because I have three points and I will go would you eat a barbecue?

Danielle 36:59
Hot Dog hamburger.

Dustin Staats 37:02
four points. Last one board games.

Danielle 37:06
Take the ride. And

Dustin Staats 37:10
I think you missed the most important one. You chose some show some long board game.

Danielle 37:21
That’s no one Listen to me.

Dustin Staats 37:31
Anyone watching maybe hopefully could have pulled some off. But like the board games with the longest most syllables, I think. Awesome. So Daniel, thank you again, for coming on and chatting. I’ll put your Instagram up here again. But if you want to share anything that you’re working on, I know you have like a donation program too. And then your Instagram or wherever you want people to connect with you.

Danielle 37:57
Yeah, we just really want to encourage people to give games to kids who might not have exposure to games like this. So if you find a game that you like playing, we just want people to donate that to like a local school or local, you know, foster families or things like that. So we do have on our Instagram and like my bio and the links to nonprofits that we partner with that have like a game wish list, one for teachers and low income schools, and then one for foster families. And then like group homes, so kids who can’t get a foster family for a variety of reasons that are in the foster care system. So and then any money that like we get through any affiliate clicks we used to buy for games, because we just think these are such amazing teaching tools that are being underutilized and they would really help some kids connect to some of the educational content in a way that maybe they can’t in traditional academics or you know, especially to foster families be able to connect as a family and play games but still learn and Archie think it’s important. So that’s what we just tried to do with our account.

Dustin Staats 39:00
Awesome, really cool. And then your Instagram just board game babies reach out to Danielle there. She posts some awesome reviews. And that’s how I how I found her was through Instagram. So thank you again for coming on. And thank you for being our first I don’t know, we’ll be the first video cast episode that comes out with being the first one that recorded. Super excited for that. Awesome, thank you. I

Board Gaming with Education 39:30
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